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Shaw, Edmund

Birth Name Shaw, Edmund
Also Known As Shaw, Edmond
Gramps ID I0241
Gender male
Age at Death 71 years, 3 months, 22 days

Events

Event Date Place Description
Sources Notes
Birth 1852-09-10 Indiana, USA  
 
Census 1860 Ward Twp, Randolph Cty, Indiana, USA  
1a
Census 1870 Ward Twp, Randolph Cty, Indiana, USA  
2a
Census 1900 Wayne Twp, Randolph Cty, Indiana, USA  
3a
Census 1910 Jackson Twp, Randolph Cty, Indiana, USA  
4a
Census 1920 Jackson Twp, Randolph Cty, Indiana, USA  
5a
Death 1924 Indiana, USA  
 
Burial   Weimer Cemetery, Saratoga, Ward Twp, Randolph Cty, Indiana, USA  
 
Occupation     Farmer
4a 3a

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father Shaw, James Nelson [I0262]1820-10-221877-10-29
Mother Burton, Elizabeth Edmund [I0263]1820-06-031897-12-07
    Sister     Shaw, Minerva [I2322] 1842
    Sister     Shaw, Hannah [I2316] 1847 1889-08-17
    Brother     Shaw, Joel [I2315] 1850 1943-05-22
         Shaw, Edmund [I0241] 1852-09-10 1924
    Brother     Shaw, Seth [I2317] 1854 1920
    Brother     Shaw, Henry Richard [I2318] 1857-03-07 1946-11-22
    Sister     Shaw, Amanda [I2319] 1860
    Sister     Shaw, Mary Ellen [I2320] 1863
    Brother     Shaw, Delbert [I2321] 1868

Families

    Family of Shaw, Edmund and Hoover, Martha Ann [F0117]
Married Wife Hoover, Martha Ann [I0242] ( * 1861-06-29 + 1928 )
   
Event Date Place Description
Sources Notes
Marriage 1881-04-09 Randolph Cty, Indiana, USA  
6a
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
Shaw, Frank J. [I2310]
Shaw, Theodore [I2312]
Shaw, Harry [I2313]1881-09-08
Shaw, Charles [I2314]1884
Shaw, Bertha [I2309]1887-03-07
Shaw, Russell Orin [I0098]1889-08-061977
Shaw, Glen Erma [I2311]1899-03-291973

Media

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Narrative

On the marriage record for Russell Orin Shaw and Goldie Imel, Russell's father's name is reported as Edward, not Edmund. On the marriage record for Bertha Shaw and Ralph Isenbarger, he is named Edwin. It seems that no one was very clear on what his name actually was.

There is mention of his older sister (Minerva) as an early member (1866) and deaconess (1875) of the Winchester Disciples' Church in The History of Randolph County 1882 (Indiana), but no mention of Edmund Shaw or his parents James or Elizabeth Shaw.

There is mention as well in the Randolph County History of both a J.T. Shaw and a J.L. Shaw - unknown if either of these could be James Shaw, father of Edmund Shaw. There is also mention of a Joseph Shaw (b.1796 in Bucks County, Pennsylvania), father to Gideon Shaw and Benjamin R. Shaw; Aaron Shaw; A.B. Shaw; Lafayette Shaw; R.C. Shaw; D.E. Shaw.

Further note on the Joseph Shaw family - he was married to Sarah Ramsey, came to Randolph County in 1830 or 1831, and on p374, of his six sons and six daughters, the following are listed:
- Lydia Ann, married to Harrison Anderson.
- Gideon (b.1821), farmer, broker, and trader of some wealth.
- Hester, married to Joseph Thomas.
- Mary Elizabeth, died young.
- Jasper, merchant and tailor.
- Rachel, married a Manning.
- John Thompson, merchant and tailor; in his bio (p461) is mentioned a brother, Samuel.
- Martin Van Buren, died young.
- Martha Polly (?).
- Benjamin R., carpenter and farmer, later a "pettifogger" of "considerable notoriety."

There is _also_ note of a Mercy Shaw, daughter of Jonathan and Elizabeth Shaw of Wayne County, Indiana, on her marriage in 1849 to John A. Moorman.

There is a bio for a Reuben C. Shaw (b.1826, Boston), son of ship captain David E. Shaw. In the 1850s Reuben moved to Randolph County and set up a farm and mill to finance his business of home and building construction. His children listed are Walter C., Sylvera B., Josephine W., Frank L., and Frederick P.

Other than Minerva Shaw, there appears to be no clear tie to James or Edmund Shaw noted in that text.

It should be noted that there was an Edmund B. Shaw (b. 18 Sep 1824 in New York state), son of Patrick and Cynthia (Beers) Shaw, who was resident in Wells Cty, Indiana, and who fought in the Civil War; this is not the same man as is my ancestor. The proximity in geography and (somewhat) in age can lead to some confusion in records searches. My ancestor Edmund would have still been a young boy at the beginning of the Civil War.

ADDENDUM: While looking for potential parentage for James, I noted that his marriage in 1843 was in Athens Cty, Ohio; in the 1840 US Census, there is a household for Eli Shaw in Ward, Athens Cty, Ohio with the following counted family members:

M0-5: 1
M5-10: 1
M10-15: 2
M15-20: 2
M40-50: 1
F0-5: 1
F5-10: 1
F20-30: 1
F30-40: 1

This could be the household of James' father, as he could be one of the two young men in the 15-20 tally.

Additionally, there is a household for Joel Shaw in Athens Cty, Ohio - in York Twp in 1830, and in Trimble Twp in 1840 - with the following counts (with or without assuming these records are for the same man).

1830 1840
M0-5 1 1
M5-10 2
M10-15 2 1
M15-20 3
M20-30 1
M30-40 1
M40-50 1
F0-5 1
F5-10 2 1
F10-15
F15-20
F20-30 1
F30-40 1

This man seems a more likely candidate to me, if only because James named his firstborn son Joel. On the other hand, James and his wife Elizabeth married in Ward Twp, so that gives a mark in favor of Eli.

SECOND ADDENDUM: A photo has been added to the listing for James on the FindaGrave.com website; this photo includes his date of death (29 Oct 1877) and his age at death ("57Y & 7D"), calculating back to a birthdate of 22 Oct 1820.

 

Pedigree

  1. Shaw, James Nelson [I0262]
    1. Burton, Elizabeth Edmund [I0263]
      1. Shaw, Minerva [I2322]
      2. Shaw, Hannah [I2316]
      3. Shaw, Joel [I2315]
      4. Shaw, Edmund
        1. Hoover, Martha Ann [I0242]
          1. Shaw, Harry [I2313]
          2. Shaw, Charles [I2314]
          3. Shaw, Bertha [I2309]
          4. Shaw, Russell Orin [I0098]
          5. Shaw, Frank J. [I2310]
          6. Shaw, Glen Erma [I2311]
          7. Shaw, Theodore [I2312]
      5. Shaw, Seth [I2317]
      6. Shaw, Henry Richard [I2318]
      7. Shaw, Amanda [I2319]
      8. Shaw, Mary Ellen [I2320]
      9. Shaw, Delbert [I2321]

Ancestors

Source References

  1. US Census of 1860 [S0044]
      • Date: 1860
      • Citation:

        "United States Census, 1860," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M4NT-VRH : accessed 18 Nov 2014), James Shaw, Ward Township, Randolph, Indiana, United States; from "1860 U.S. Federal Census - Population," Fold3.com; p. 65, household ID 458, NARA microfilm publication M653; NARA microfilm publication M653. National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.; FHL microfilm 803292.

        Event Year: 1860
        Event Place: Ward Township, Randolph, Indiana, United States
        James Shaw M 39
        Elizabeth Shaw F 40
        Menerva Shaw F 18
        Hanah Shaw F 12
        Joel Shaw M 10
        Edmund Shaw M 8
        Seth Shaw M 6
        Henry Shaw M 4
        Amanda Shaw F 0

  2. US Census of 1870 [S0020]
      • Date: 1870
      • Citation:

        "United States Census, 1870," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MX6Y-CDR : accessed 18 Nov 2014), James Shaw, Indiana, United States; citing p. 35, family 274, NARA microfilm publication M593, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 000545853.

        Event Year: 1870
        Event Place: Indiana, United States
        James Shaw M 49
        Elizabeth Shaw F 50
        Joel Shaw M 20
        Hanna Shaw F 19
        Edmond Shaw M 18
        Seth Shaw M 16
        Henry Shaw M 12
        Amanda Shaw F 9
        Ellen Shaw F 7
        Delbert Shaw M 2

  3. US Census of 1900 [S0039]
      • Date: 1900
      • Citation:

        "United States Census, 1900," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M9MY-ZJX : accessed 17 Nov 2014), Russell Shaw in household of Edmund Shaw, Wayne Township (west part excl. Wayne city), Randolph, Indiana, United States; citing sheet 11A, family 235, NARA microfilm publication T623, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.; FHL microfilm 1240399.

        Event Year: 1900
        Event Place: Wayne Township (west part excl. Wayne city), Randolph, Indiana, United States
        Edmund Shaw Head M 48 Indiana
        Martha A Shaw Wife F 39 Indiana
        Harry Shaw Son M 19 Indiana
        Charles Shaw Son M 16 Indiana
        Bertha Shaw Daughter F 13 Indiana
        Russell Shaw Son M 11 Indiana
        Frank Shaw Son M 8 Indiana
        Erma G Shaw Son M 1 Indiana

  4. US Census of 1910 [S0040]
      • Date: 1910
      • Citation:

        "United States Census, 1910," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MK5N-X6L : accessed 17 Nov 2014), Russell Shaw in household of Edmund Shaw, Jackson, Randolph, Indiana, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 134, sheet 12A, family 274, NARA microfilm publication T624, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.; FHL microfilm 1374389.

        Event Year: 1910
        Event Place: Jackson, Randolph, Indiana, United States
        Edmund Shaw Head M 57 Indiana
        Martha A Shaw Wife F 48 Indiana
        Bertha Shaw Daughter F 23 Indiana
        Russell Shaw Son M 20 Indiana
        Frank Shaw Son M 18 Indiana
        Glen Shaw Son M 11 Indiana
        Dora Shaw Son M 8 Indiana

  5. US Census of 1920 [S0041]
      • Date: 1920
      • Citation:

        "United States Census, 1920," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MF4J-FL3 : accessed 10 March 2015), Edmund Shaw, Jackson, Randolph, Indiana, United States; citing sheet 8A, family 174, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 1,820,464.

        Event Year: 1920
        Event Place: Jackson, Randolph, Indiana, United States
        Edmund Shaw Head M 66 Indiana
        Martha A Shaw Wife F 56 Indiana
        Theodore Shaw Son M 18 Indiana

  6. Marriage Records, Randolph County, Indiana [S0053]
      • Date: 1881-04-05
      • Confidence: Very High
      • Citation:

        "Indiana, Marriages, 1811-1959," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-23396-32323-81?cc=1410397 : accessed 24 Mar 2014), Randolph > 1881-1882 > image 9 of 143.